February 25, 1993

The meeting of the Supervisors of Franklin Township, held in the
Township office, was called to order by Chairman Herbert Netzler
with the Pledge of Allegiance at 0903 hours.  Present were
Netzler, Benjamin Sitek, David Henderson, Attorney Mark Richmond,
Pat Rossi, Jeff Nelson and George Antolik.

MINUTES
Sitek said he wanted an answer to his question of the last
meeting, what did George Antolik purchase his land for.  Netzler
replied that it's up to George to answer that.  Herb presented
the law pertaining to unlawful taking.  Discussion.

Henderson moved to accept the minutes of February 9, 1993 as
presented.  Sitek seconded.  Carried.

FUEL BIDS FOR 1993
The only bid received was from Erie Petroleum.
	Gasoline - .6585/gal.   	Diesel Fuel - .7110/gal.
Henderson moved to accept the bid from Erie Petroleum.  Sitek
seconded.  Carried.

VISITORS
Pat Rossi, Emergency Services Training Academy - presented a plan
showing the proposed training facilities.

Netzler - because this facility is a school the property does not
need to be rezoned.  Attorney Richmond agreed.

Henderson - if ESTA purchases the Tipton property, they will have
to go through subdivision requirements.

Henderson moved to waive any permit fees involved with the
Emergency Services Training Academy.  Sitek seconded.  Carried.

Jeff Nelson, ESTA - The Health Dept. will be out to inspect the
Carr property septic system.  When the student facility is built
we may need a holding tank.

Henderson - you could put in a small flow treatment facility.

Henderson moved to approve leasing a portion of the Township
property for $1.00 for 99 years to the Emergency Services
Training Academy.  Insurance and liability is the sole
responsibility of ESTA.  If ESTA becomes defunct, the property
reverts back to Franklin Township.  ESTA is given permission to
use the Township driveways.  Sitek seconded.  Carried.  Jeff
Nelson paid the $1.00 fee. 

Nelson - the Health Dept., D.E.R. and E.P.A. have been contacted.
 Jeff requested use of the Township backhoe to dig test holes. 
Discussion on plans for run off water from the burn building.
Jeff added that the County and other township's have asked for
cooperation to build the facility and prepare the site.  The Soil
Conservation agency in Waterford has said they see no problem
with wetlands.  Their map shows no areas of concern.

Henderson moved to authorize Attorney Richmond to draw up an
agreement between Emergency Services Training Academy and
Franklin Township.  Sitek seconded.  Carried.

Rossi and Nelson left the meeting at 0930 hours.

REPORTS
Superintendent - Dave reported that snow has been plowed, repairs
made to the Mack and that the Athey will be brought in soon.  A
decision will have to be made on repairs to it's front end.

Application for County Aid - Dave moved to adopt the following
resolution, Ben seconded.  Motion carried.

c8RESOLUTION #2-93

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that we, the officials of Franklin
Township, Erie County, PA, in regular session assembled on the
25th day of February, 1993, do hereby make application to the
County Council of Erie County for an allocation of County Liquid
Fuel Tax Funds in the amount of $9,357.00 to be used in the
improvement of Fry Road (TR448), to purchase and apply on 2.20
miles of Fry Road (TR448) from Crane Road to Old State Road 2
inches of FB 1 B.C. and 1 inch of FB 1 W.C. 20 feet wide and to
fill berms to pavement surface level.  Estimated total cost of
project is $50,000.  It is certified by the Municipality and the
officers who execute this application that all materials used and
work done hereunder shall conform to the current PA DOT
specifications or specifications approved by the Department and
that all work will be done within the legal right of way or with
permission of the abutting property owners.

Letter to PA DOT/Old State - on hold.

Letter to NRECA - Dave moved to send a thank you letter to
Northwestern RECA for work done on the light at Rt. 98 and Old
State.  Ben seconded.  Carried.

Beck Mailboxes - Dave said that the posts the boxes are on are a
hazard.  Ben moved to send a letter to Bobby Beck and Steve
Nesselhauf asking them to removed the posts and replace them with
the approved mailbox design.  Dave seconded.  Carried.

FINANCIAL AND TAXES
Bills - Ben moved to approve the bills as listed excluding PA One
Call totaling $8,110.42 general fund.  Dave seconded.  Carried.

Payroll - Dave moved to approve payrolls #3-93 and #4-93.  Ben
seconded.  Carried.

Renkis Report/Tax Collector - on hold.
Computer Update - on hold.

Tax Bills - June reported that the tax bills are late coming from
the County due to a computer breakdown and will be several days
late going out.

PLANNING, ZONING AND HEALTH DEPT.
Planning Commission - no report.
Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance - on hold.
Wagner Request - request withdrawn.
Industrial Parks - on hold.

Verbal Complaint/Greiner Occupant - Ben moved to send the current
occupant a letter telling him a complain was received alleging
that he may be in violation of the home occupation regulations
and to attend the March 9th meeting.  Dave seconded.  Carried.

Venango Twp. Meeting - the Supervisors will try to attend the
meeting at Venango Twp. with D.E.R. concerning septic systems and
permits.

SOLICITOR
Major/Minor Subdivision and George Antolik - the opinion letter
from the Solicitor was reviewed.  It states that a subdivision
fronting on an existing road with ten lots or less with no sewer
extensions, no dedication of a street or alley qualifies it as a
minor.

Netzler to George Antolik - why aren't you going to major and
what's the difference in work involved between the two.

Henderson - we don't know what we're doing.  This is the first
major subdivision we've had and we need to get clear on what
we're doing.

Antolik - I've been doing what my engineer (Ralph Heidler)
recommends.

Henderson - read the requirements of a major subdivision.

Netzler - why don't you just go major and save problems.  A major
keeps the turmoil down.

Richmond - I saw no definition for very low density.

Henderson - the only thing we can go by then is lot size.  If a
lot is two acres with 250 foot frontage and has one single family
residential structure on it then that is very low density for
A-1.  Discussion.

Henderson moved to direct the Planning Commission, in accordance
with the Subdivision Ordinance procedures on page 3 for a major
subdivision paragraph 5, that George Antolik has complied with
A,B,C,D,E.  He is at the submission of a final plan stage of a 
major subdivision.  That plan will have to be submitted.  Two
acre lots with a minimum of 250 foot frontage are acceptable. 
Sitek seconded.  Carried.

Antolik - is the road agreement done.

Henderson - as a major subdivision, you don't need an agreement
but you must build the road to our ordinance specifications.

Antolik - Erie County Planning specifications says I must use
blacktop.  Can that be waived to tar and chip?

Richmond - make out a written application spelling out the
details per traffic load.  Discussion on dedication of a road,
construction etc.

Alternate for P.C. - Richmond questioned how an alternate could
be up to date on what's going on.  Dave said he didn't think the
P.C. should be increased in size.

Ben moved to leave the Planning Commission at five members with
no alternate.  Dave seconded.  Carried.

Dave added that when they have difficulty making a quorum, those
members not regularly attending should come off the Board.

M.D.I.A. Contract - the draft was reviewed and proposed changes
made including dropping all references to the BOCA code. 
Richmond will send the revised draft to Mr. Franks.

Cable TV - on hold.
Szymanowicz Complaint - Richmond will set up for next meeting.

Garbage -  the Feb. 22, 1993 letter from the Attorney was
reviewed. 

Netzler - if Waste Management wanted to come back on us, we'd be
in trouble.

Henderson - why do we allow all those garbage trucks to run up
and down the roads damaging them.

Netzler - so we don't aggravate the taxpayers.  They have a
choice.  I'm content with the arrangement we have.  Other haulers
should bring their pick ups back to the Township bin for Waste
Management to pick up.

Richmond - at the very least you could send a letter to the other
haulers informing them of the Township's exclusive contract with
Waste Management.

Sitek - we could tell people about the problem in the newsletter.

Henderson - Waste Management won't pick up in front of homes, it
wasn't in the contract.  Should we have curb side pick up?

Netzler - no.

Sitek - we should have at least one.  We can't ram it down
people's throats, they should have a choice.

Richmond - you must stick with the contract in force.  You can
change at the end of the present contract.  There's nothing in
the contract about picking up curb side recyclables.  I think
you're stuck for the length of the present contract.  Discussion.

Sitek moved to leave the problem alone until the end of the
present contract (Sept. 1994).  Henderson seconded.  Carried.

F.T.V.F.D. Oath/Fire Police - secretary is to call to see if all
have been sworn in.

Load Limits - Mark said he has a draft copy ready and will send
it.  Dave said to put it all in one comprehensive ordinance. 
Herb added that we can expand the present gas and oil drilling
ordinance to include load limits on all heavy equipment for any
purpose.  Discussion on farm equipment, milk haulers doing damage
to roads, etc.  Richmond said you can make them post a bond based
on the number of miles traveled in the Township.  Ben said to
contact other township's on how they handle the problem and who
polices it.

Richmond was instructed to research and revise the draft.

OLD BUSINESS
Sesquicentennial - copy of information from History of Erie
County was sent to Edith.

Town Hall/Goodban School - certified letters sent.  Claybro has
contacted the fire dept. to burn the old school.

Boy Scouts - nothing.
Fire Dept./Twp. Safety - nothing.

Roof Leaks - in the spring the edges will be painted.  We'll see
if the patches work when it rains.

Auction Contract/Fire Dept. - Dave moved to authorize himself to
sign the contract.  Ben seconded.  Carried.  The fire dept.
concerns were reviewed.  Dave said we will post no stopping or
standing signs on New Rd. to the creek.

NEW BUSINESS
Triathlon - Sitek moved to approve the Triathlon when the
insurance form is received and to send the required letter to PA
DOT.  Henderson seconded.  Carried.

Council Person - Judy Lynch is to visit on March 4 at 11 a.m. to
introduce our new council person, Paul Foust.

CORRESPONDENCE
Soil Conservation Dinner - Herb and Ben will attend.

ADJOURN
Netzler called the meeting adjourned at 1115 hours.

Bonnie J. Bernhardt, Secretary