August 25, 1994

HEARING/VFW
The hearing on the conditional use request of VFW Post 740, held
in the Township office, was called to order by Chairman Benjamin
Sitek at 0847 hours.  Present were Sitek, David Henderson and
several neighbors of the Post site.

Sitek - asked those present if they had any comments.

Angela Horvath - said she was familiar with the VFW Post in
Albion and was not happy with the way it is run.  She said it
attracts derelicts, the music is loud and they allow gambling. 
She was a social member of that post until she withdrew her
membership.

Herbert Netzler arrived at 0849 hours.

Sitek - the post plans on constructing ball fields first then a
building.  He added that he has never been in a rowdy VFW.

Bob Houghton - Albion post is run as a drinking place.  Poker
machines are illegal and you can't get a home association license
any more.  Some posts are open only 3 days a week.  Albion post
does nothing for the community.  Currently we are not allowed to
have social members.  Our post has 110 regular members.  Our
intent is not to run a saloon.  We will need some kind of income,
perhaps by renting picnic shelters, banquet rooms, raffles,
turkey shoots, etc.  McKean is losing their ball fields and we
would like to start them up again on this property.  We want to
put back into the community and we don't look for the post to be
open 7 days a week.

Mary Tipton - would you be able to get a liquor license.

Houghton - if you have over 100 members you can get a license for
members only.

Tipton - I see nothing wrong with it, I think it's a good thing.

Houghton - we are looking into getting a construction trailer so
we can hold meetings in it and be able to expand from it.  We
will eventually get a liquor license for members.  Presently we
are not allowed to have social members.

Sitek - I'm sure if it's run by members the neighbors will have
no problems like they have with Albion.

Hearing adjourned at 0902 hours.

The meeting of the Supervisors of Franklin Township, held in the
Township office, was called to order by Chairman Benjamin Sitek
with the Pledge of Allegiance at 0902 hours.  Present were Sitek,
Herbert Netzler and David Henderson.  Attorney Prenatt will be
late due to filing a motion in court.

MINUTES
Herb moved to approve the minutes of 8/09/94 as corrected (change
driveway pipes to waterways).  Dave seconded.  Carried.

VISITORS
Nothing.

REPORTS
Superintendent - Dave reported that ditching and some minor
equipment repair has been done.

Four Year Road Plan - nothing.
Plows for Grader - Herb will bring to Twp. building for
inspection.

Orders from the Board - Herb said he thinks the tail ditches and
sluice pipes need to be cleaned so the water can get to the
waterways.

Sitek - feels the waterways need to be done first, ditches are
filling in already.  It's time to stop ditching and clean up what
we've done.

Henderson - Mohawk and Francis waterways are done already.  We're
on Eureka south of New.  I want to do that end of Eureka and then
stop.  We will have done 15 miles of ditch by 9/1/94, nearly 1/2
of our roads.  Some of the ditches on the other sections of road
are all right.  When I'm done ditching then we'll do waterways
and driveway pipes.

Sitek - clean the waterways back far enough so the water can move
then clean the pipes.

Netzler - do all of one section then move on.

Sitek -no, waterways first then come back for driveway pipes. 

Tiger Mower/Tractor - Dave presented the proposal from Walsh
Equipment for the purchase of a Tiger mower and ditcher.  He said
that it costs the Twp. $8,000 annually to mow ($6,500 fall
mowing, $1,000-1,500 summer mowing).  We don't get to use the
machine when we want and can't make as good use of it as we could
if we had our own.  It would pay us to purchase our own mower.

Netzler - I don't think we can afford it.  We still have 6 years
on the truck/grader loan.  The cost is $40,000 plus interest,
fuel, repairs, workers comp. etc.  Put a freeze on purchasing and
put that money into blacktopping and road improvements.

Henderson - the payment schedule shown is based on 7 years, it
will probably go lower than those figures shown.  Most likely it
would be a ten year loan. 

Sitek - if you can save $8,000 and not pay it out, I can see the
logic.  You still have to pay it out though for mowing.

Henderson - it has other potential uses.  With a cab we can tow
the York rake and use it for ditching which would more than pay
for itself.  We can save a lot of time.  What he did in two hours
during the demonstration, we would take two days to do and use 3
guys to do it.

Netzler - you still have to clean up after it.

Henderson - once the ditch is in place, we can maintain it with
the machine.  The time savings is 2-3 fold.  The only thing I
would change is the time of delivery.  We need it by the middle
of Sept. to save the mowing that Elk Creek does.

Sitek - there's another mowing attachment.

Henderson - the 50" attachment is for brush, the 60" attachment
is for grass only.

Sitek - when we get new equipment it's not taken care of by the
guys.  Some people won't want the ditch material thrown up on
their property.  You can use it by fields but not lawns.  I'd
like more time to think about it.

Henderson - I'm urging a decision today or we will need to shell
out the money to Elk Creek.

Sitek - I don't see a lot of other Twps. mowing in the fall.  I
don't care if Elk Creek mows this fall.

On hold until the Sept. 13th meeting.

Salt Bid/Millcreek Twp. - last years bid was $34.15
delivered/$35.00 picked up.  Will wait for Morton's quote.

Driveway Pipes/Trimble - Both the driveway pipes on the Trimble
property on Silverthorn need to be replaced.  The south pipe
won't take water and the north pipe is buried.  Netzler moved to
send the Trimbles a letter telling them they need two new pipes. 
Sitek seconded.  Carried.

Hough Repairs - Herb will do.

FINANCIAL AND TAXES
Bills - Ben moved to pay the bills as listed excluding Anderson
Equipment (shifter) and including the EIT claims totaling
$9,830.69 general fund and $5,991.25 EIT fund.  Herb seconded. 
Carried.

Payroll - Dave moved to approve payroll #16-94, #17-94.  Ben
seconded.  Carried.

Copier - nothing.

PLANNING, ZONING, HEALTH DEPARTMENT
Industrial Grants - Herb reported on a training session he
attended on capital improvements and grant money.  Netzler moved
to authorize himself to apply for any grant money available for
playgrounds for the V.F.W. property.  Sitek seconded.  Carried.

Sewage/Washington Twp. - Herb said that Earl Koon told him that
Washington Twp. would no way consider Franklin Twp. hooking into
their lines.  Dave said that that was not what their Authority
told him.  Discussion.  Herb feels that Washington Twp. seems to
want to cut down on building in the lake side area.  Dave added
that their Sewer and Water Authority will reach 80% capacity soon
and the law says they must have an expansion plan in place for
future needs.  Herb said that D.E.R. and PennVest has the last
word.

V.F.W. Conditional Use - Sitek moved to grant the conditional use
request of the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 740.  Henderson
seconded.  Carried.

Replacement for Soltys - nothing yet.

Travel Trailer/Keener - Herb said he was told someone moved a
travel trailer onto the Keener property on Eureka and is living
there permanently.  There is only one septic system.  Dave moved
to send the Keeners a letter asking what's going on.  Ben
seconded.  Carried.

Junk Cars/Pekelnicky on Old State - neighbors are complaining
about the number of unlicensed, uninsured vehicles on the
property.  Supervisors will check into it.

OLD BUSINESS
Sesquicentennial - will call Bob Berry to check on the book.
Safety Meetings - nothing.
Provider List - nothing.
Employee Rights - nothing.
Neighborhood Crime Watch - nothing.

NEW BUSINESS
Nothing.

CORRESPONDENCE
Secretaries Dinner Meeting - Dave authorized the secretary and
any Supervisor to attend.  Ben seconded.  Carried.

Upcoming training sessions were reviewed.

Antolik/Western Trails Subdivision - Mr. Antolik asked for a one
year extension on paving Western Trail.  He would like to pave in
the fall of 1995 after he puts another layer of gravel on the
road.

Henderson - how do the residents on that road feel about it?

Antolik - they don't care, one is selling his property.

Netzler - get a letter from the residents on how they feel.  I'll
go along with it if the residents don't care.

Solicitor arrived at 1004 hours.
   
SOLICITOR
Cable TV - nothing.

IntraGlobal - having trouble getting in touch with the Health
Dept.

Airport Milled Material - will reschedule a meeting.

Front Foot Assessment/Silverthorn - Sitek said that any changes
made in the price should be told to the people up front before
the meeting gets underway.

Henderson - the $7 includes the base, crushed, pipes, ditching,
brush removal, berms, driveways and paving.  At $5/ft. it would
mean two years of Permanent Improvement and fund raisers.

Netzler - have the Solicitor check the law and see if we can put
any general fund money in a paving project based on front foot
assessment.  The way I interpret the law, they get up a petition,
we tell them how much and they pay.  I don't think the Township
can put into it.

Prenatt - I can research it but I don't see anything wrong with
it.  The petition is to tell us who wants it done.  It's a major
decision and whatever the cost comes out to, they pay that
amount.

Sitek - if there is a price change tell them, if not tell them. 
We should pay for the base, we would do the base anyway.  My way
of looking at it is we pay for 12" of Zessinger base and the
trucking and they pay for the blacktop.  I'll not vote for
anything that will stick them for the base, the Township should
do the base.

Henderson - you're saying the assessment is for the blacktop
only.  That's not the only costs involved.  If you're saying the
Township pays for all but the blacktop, I'll run those figures
for the meeting on the 30th.

Alan from Hoover Sand and Gravel arrived at 1016 hours.

Netzler - I'm afraid of those cards.

Prenatt - the purpose of the cards is to see if there's an
interest in circulating a petition.  You'll have to start all
over again if there is a price change.  The residents must get up
a petition and take it around.

Sitek - no petition at the meeting, they need time to think it
over.

Man in Travel Trailer/Mohawk - the Health Dept. needs to get out
there and check it out.

Nudity Ordinance - Supervisors will review the draft for the next
meeting.  

Netzler - I gave a copy to the Methodist Church and would like to
hear from them stating their opinion.  The church is less than
300 feet from a tavern.  The tavern got away with that years ago
by moving their front entrance to the side of the building.

Sitek - it's up to us to look out for them and all our residents
and we will with an ordinance.

Girl Scout Tax Exempt Appeal - Prenatt said the Board of
Assessment has denied tax exemption on all their parcels.  The
hearing is to give their attorney a chance to talk.  Netzler
moved to authorize Attorney Prenatt to attend the hearing. 
Henderson seconded.  Carried.

Lost Crushed Gravel/5,000 Yards - Alan from Hoover Sand and
Gravel presented a copy of Hoover's daily log of gravel crushed
and a photo taken of the 5,000 yard pile.  They ran 21,000 yards
and billed us for 20,000 yards.  Discussion.  Alan added that
they crushed bank yards not compacted yards.

Henderson - we hauled bank yards.

Discussion on the amount of gravel put on New Road by the
Township.

Sitek - each truck would have had to haul double.

Netzler - I estimate 5,907 compacted yards on New Road.

Antolik - most gravel compacts 20%, 12" equals 8" compacted.

Netzler - no one else has hauled out of there since Alan's
picture was taken of the remaining pile.  That gravel is on a
road somewhere.

Sitek - where are the truck slips?  How can you accuse two
townships of taking that much gravel.

Netzler - we're in hock for about $12,500 to make up for ESTA.

Henderson - Alan's picture shows the remaining gravel, that is
what's missing.

The Supervisors, Attorney Prenatt and Alan from Hoover Sand and
Gravel left at 1045 hours to check New Road and the portion of
Eureka that Washington Twp. and Elk Creek Twp. graveled this
summer.

Supervisors, Attorney and Alan returned at 1120 hours.

Netzler moved to authorize Hoover Sand and Gravel to crush 6,000
yards of gravel at the Zessinger Pit (whatever is needed to
supply ESTA for the amount already agreed upon.)  Henderson
seconded.  Carried.

Sitek - did anyone take gravel somewhere else from the pit?

Henderson - Elk Creek was in the pit for 1/2 day and took some
from our pile for pipes.

Netzler - they should never be in that pit.

Henderson - have Ben take the lead in the investigation because
he is a doubting Thomas.  Ben refused saying Dave was the one
dealing with them.

Netzler - have Dave get the facts together then we'll have an
executive session to decide what to do.

Sitek - I think you'll find it in different places.  First thing,
find out how that road (Eureka south of Crane) got twice as much
gravel as they contracted for.

Netzler - that road has at least eight inches of crushed on it
with a sixteen inch crown and they contracted for four inches.

ADJOURN
Sitek called the meeting adjourned at 1131 hours.

Bonnie J. Bernhardt, Secretary